Posts by Pete Zahut

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what era do you feel like your starting out from?

by sowhatnow in

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anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?

or emerged from a time capsule?.

i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.

Pete Zahut

Anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma? or emerged from a time capsule?

My boys were little in the late 80's and 90's and keeping food on the table and a roof over their heads kept me busy. There were so many times when after a long day of work, I wanted nothing more than to stay home and enjoy my little boys. Instead we felt obligated to dress them in little suits and ties 3 time a week, head to the Kingdom Hall on a dark wintery night and force them to sit through mind numbing talks about the supposed nearness of the end. Sometimes I'd look at them sitting there in their chairs with glazed looks on their faces and remember my own growing up years as a JW and feel badly for them.

There's no way to get that time back and there's a lot of catching up to do now and the hard part is, I don't really have quite the same energy and drive that I used to have. It would have been nice to have known what I know now....back when I was on top of my game. I don't know anything about politics. Didn't get to know my neighbors or coworkers all those years. Didn't really learn how to make friends. Friendships just sort of happened after all those years of going to the meetings week after week. I still feel quite elated on Tuesday and Thursday nights when I realize that I don't have to go to "the meeting".

One nice thing has been watching old movies that I'd missed because they were rated R. and not feeling obligated to explain my beliefs or that I'm representing Jehovah's Witnesses every time I'm faced with a decision or some controversial issue.

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The Perfect Ones...

by JW_Rogue in

with the rc coming i was wondering if anyone else noticed how some jws seemed to have everything somehow?

you would see these attractive young couples who clearly were well off.

the brother had privileges though so you know he was at the meetings and fs regularly.

Pete Zahut

With the RC coming I was wondering if anyone else noticed how some JWs seemed to have everything somehow?

The operative word in the sentence above is "SEEMED".

In any group of people, there are always those who manage to do better than average and become the cream that rises to the top. But what do JW's really do? They meet often and talk about how much they are accomplishing but really, it's mostly driving around in cars, sitting in meetings and talking about how great and how happy they are. Most of what they do is for them....about them....and isn't exactly rocket science. Rather it is repetitive pablum that anyone with two brain cells can get the gist of in a few months. They keep busy with work they've created for themselves....it's all talk and rhetoric.

To be fair, there is an advantage in living a clean lifestyle. Less money wasted, better health and looks, but lots of people accomplish this without being a JW. For many JW's , just like those they call "worldly", it's all show.....and no Dough $$. There is a certain peer pressure that keeps the standard of grooming and dress at a higher level than is typical. JW's are dressed up all the time and are practiced at their grooming and there is a certain amount competition and keeping up with the Jones's that goes on. They like to appear as if they are being blessed and are living the ideal life in a spiritual paradise especially at assembly time. If my family was typical, more emphasis was put on what clothes we were going to wear to the assembly, than on importance of the assembly itself.

Everyone looks good or at least better than normal and seem less flawed when they are dressed in their "Sunday Best" and sitting quietly in a meeting minding their P's and Q's. Over the long haul you see the casualties of all of this. You see the hidden alcoholism, the indebtedness that leads to bankruptcy and the pressure that leads to depression and anxiety and sometimes divorce. Others who manage to pull it off, are wondering how much longer they can stand it. You see it in the eyes of the sisters especially, who seem to have lost track of who they are and what they are doing on this endless treadmill.

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A question about WTBTS moles.

by DATA-DOG in

with all the info from videos to boe letters, to the flock book ( this is huge when you learn ttatt!

), why can't we find out who the wtbts hired to aid in their rebranding efforts?

we know all about the rc and monica applewhite for jeehoober's sake, so why in the hell can't we find out who is behind the rebranding?

Pete Zahut

When I was in Bethel, a good friend there was a recent college graduate (English major) and became a JW after he had received his degree. His sister was a recent convert who turned him on to the JW's. We worked in the Bindery together and one day he was tapped on the shoulder and told to come to the Bethel office.

Later that day he told me that he was being transferred to the Legal Dept and being sent to Law School. I was shocked, I had gone to Bethel instead of going to College as I had wanted to and realized that those of us who listened to the Societies directive to forgo a higher education were being discriminated against for having done so.

They tell the rank and file that the end is near and not to waste time on pursuing a degree yet they use the donated funds earned by the sweat of uneducated publishers working at dead end jobs, to send a Bethelite to Law School. That was in 1977 and the end didn't come and that Brother left Bethel and "the truth" years ago and is now in his early 60's.

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Start your own Prince rumour!

by purrpurr in

i see the jw rumour mill is going into mad overdrive about prince.

the stories seem to be more and more unlikely.

so i thought as a bit of fun how about us here try to make up our own rumours?

Pete Zahut

1. As soon as the Governing Body got wind that they were named as major benefactors in Prince's Will, they had him "Whacked" by their sister organization" (The Illuminati ) so they could use his money to bail themselves out of their current financial woes. (Jehovah blesses in his own large way)

2. Prince is still alive. He staged his own death so that he could drop off the grid and serve where the need is great.

3. Prince's left his Paisley Park home to the Society and specified that it be used as an unleavened bread storage facility, a sign language training center and as a sound stage for the Societies videos and music recording needs.

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Has Anybody Hear a Rumour That Prince Died?

by cofty in

why do people care so much about celebrities?

Pete Zahut

Has Anyone Heard the Rumor That Prince Died?

...and by Prince I'm assuming you're referring to "The Artist Formally Known as Alive" (too soon?)

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Any thought behind your " Avatar"

by The Rebel in

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i think that's the correct phrase?

anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

Pete Zahut

I'm far too busy with my chain of eating establishments to put much thought into my Avatar.

-Pete

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Prince was on the board of directors for the WTS

by Barrold Bonds in

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i was talking with a friend of mine who knows a few people in the home department at bethel.

apparently, prince was, as i noted in the title, on the board of directors.

he apparently was sort of a silent partner or advisor in the whole thing.

Pete Zahut

Prince was Tony Morris's go-to guy when he needed the low-down on Spanx and Tight Pants.

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So apparently prince wrote most of the songs in the new song book...

by purrpurr in

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or so says the jw's around me who heard it from someone who apparently "knows".

i'm no expert in the music of prince so perhaps someone else can tell me, does the songs of the wt sound similar to princes work?.

Pete Zahut

Didn't Prince Write Song # 126

" Christ's Thousand Year Purple Reign Is At Hand " ?

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Did Jesus really suffer? Really?

by purrpurr in

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so over the course of three days he had a trial which doesn't seem to have bothered him much.

he got whipped ok that would have been agony and then put on a torture stake/ cross/ whatever yes that would have been hell.

but he was on it for a day and the whole thing lasted for three days.

Pete Zahut

The thing that always threw me off and no one was able to answer satisfactorily,was the fact that Jesus HAD to die or be sacrificed in order to buy back the life Adam lost for mankind.

If everyone would have listened to him and accepted him how would he have paid the "ransom" ? If he was perfect and no one killed him, would he have just lived on forever?

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George Cook former DO, now just an elder at Prince's home congregation KH

by oppostate in

george cook, omg, george f'ing cook, whattttt!.

caption: elder george cook (right), one of the nine elders of the small 90-person congregation, said prince regularly ‘witnessed’ alone in the community and in groups.

he was very detail oriented and very eccentric.

Pete Zahut

It's ironic that he said Princes drug dependency was a personal matter and that he was in good standing in the congregation, because George Cook reprimanded a group of Mothers in our Congregation (including my own) for putting on a 50's party for the teenagers. He said we shouldn't be emulating the world and it's dress with our costumes, rather we should emulate the Pioneers and Missionaries of that time period.

My Mother told him he was being ridiculous and turned on her heel and walked off.

Another time he told the Sisters that in Chicago where he was from, only hookers wore knee length boots and they shouldn't be wearing them so as not to stumble anyone in their ministry . My Mother quickly pointed out to him that his wife's long red fingernails were like those on the societies depiction of the harlot riding the wild beast and were quite distracting to the householders while turning the pages of the Bible and showing them scriptures about Oh...I don't know....modesty, well arranged dress and the external braiding of the hair, for instance.

The Brothers knew better than to pull any of their B.S on my Mother because she knew her bible better and was more articulate and had a sharper wit than any of them and George Cook was no different. Funny how these years later, he views a 57 year old man who wears androgynous clothes and make-up, to be perfectly acceptable by the societies standards.